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The E-Gobrecht 

The Electronic Newsletter of the LIBERTY SEATED COLLECTORS CLUB 


Liberty Seated 
Collectors Club 

2011 Volume 7, Issue 9 

September 20 1 1 (Whole # 80) 



Auction News 
by Jim Gray 

2, 

14 


Seated Panderings & 
More 

by Paul Kluth 

3 


Exhibitors Wanted! 

3 


LSCC meeting notes 
continued 

4 


Regional News 
by Gerry Fortin 

5 


The Budget Collec- 
tor: Seventieth in a 
Series 

by Len Augsburger 

6, 

13 


Quarter of the Month 
by Greg Johnson 

7, 

9, 

13 


New half dollar book 
available 

8 


Results of the LSCC 
benefit auction 

10 


John McCloskey’s 
handout at the club 
meeting 

11 


Miscellaneous ANA 
Photos 

12 


LSCC Calendar 

14 


Reflection of the sale 
of Dick’s Halves by 

14 


Advertisements 

15 


Club information 

16 



Randy Wiley into the LSCC Hall of Fame 
Gerry Fortin wins the Ahwash Award 
Greg Johnson wins E-Gobrecht Award! 

Over forty members and guests attended the LSCC annual meeting on August 
18, 201 1 at the ANA’s Chicago (Rosemont) World’s Fair of Money. President 
John McCloskey called the crowded and noisy room to order at 9 AM by wel- 
coming everyone. 

The LSCC Treasurer/Secretary, Len Augsburger, presented his summary 
of the club’s finances and announced we are fiscally solvent. Complete details 
will be in the next Gobrecht Journal. John McCloskey summarized the club’s 
old business with details of the status of Gobrecht Journal Collective Volume 
#(5; in short, the printer is having problems with loss of past issues and John is 
working the issue. Len Augsburger then briefly discussed Dennis Fortier’s con- 
cept of a club medal. Len asked for a show of hands of interested purchasers 
assuming a $60 silver medal; the room was filled with raised hands. 

President McCloskey then discussed the Kamal M. Ahwash award and 
stated Gerry Fortin, who won the award, was in China and not able to attend. 
Bill Bugert accepted the award for Gerry and will present it to him at the No- 
vember Baltimore meeting. Bill Bugert then gave background on the LSCC 
Hall of Fame and announced the 201 1 Inductee — Randy Wiley. Randy also 
was unable to attend so Bill Bugert accepted the award for Randy and will pre- 
sent it to him at the November Baltimore meeting. Congratulations to Gerry 
and Randy! 



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The E-Gobrecht 


Auction News 

by Jim Gray, LSCC #664 


The Heritage Coin Auction, 
Platinum Night, the Stack’ s- 
Bowers ANA Sale and Rarities 
Night contained so many rele- 
vant Seated coins that if all of 
them were described. Auction 
News would be 10 pages long. 

The Heritage Auction featured an 1840-0 
half dime with drapery in MS61 that was well struck 
and attractive for $5,463. An 1839 no drapery half 
dollar in MS61 that was well struck and nicely toned 
sold for $7,475, while a natural gray 1870-CC half 
dollar in VG 10 hit $3,220. A deep gray 1873 no ar- 
rows open 3 in VF30 went for $7,475. 

An 1872-CC dollar in FI 5 with L-Y visible 
sold for $3,738, while an original gray 1878-CC 
trade dollar in XF45 hit $4,025. 

Platinum Night featured an 1872-CC dime in 
AU55 and tied for the best certified at NGC. This 
was definitely a generous grade in that OF AME was 
missing but the coin still sold for $16,100. 

An 1855-S quarter in PR64, and thought to be 
the first quarter struck at the San Francisco Mint, 
soared to $276,000, while an 1891-0 in PR62, and 
one of two known, hit $18,400. 

An 1839 no drapery half dollar in MS61, with 
nice toning but very weak on the left side of the re- 
verse, managed $8,050. An 1852-0 half in MS63 
with lovely toning sold for $9,775, while an 1855-S 
in AU58, but with streaky toning, still hammered for 
$16,100. An 1855-S in PR65, despite a stain at star 
13, and a twin to the 1855-S PR quarter, also realized 
$276,000. An 1870-CC in XF40 with a typical soft 
strike did not sell, but a well struck 1871-CC in 
AU58 went for $15,525. A bright white 1878-CC in 
AU58 sold for $10,465. 

An 1878-CC trade dollar in AU58 with 
lovely toning hammered for $12,070. 

The Stack’s-Bowers ANA Sale featured a 
large number of the rare Carson City dimes. The re- 
sults were as follows: 1871-CC, VGIO, $2,875; 

1872- CC, VGIO, no sale; 1872-CC, XF45, $10,350; 

1873- CC, VGIO, $4,313; 1873-CC VF20, $4,313; 


1874-CC, G6, $10,350; 1874-CC, F12, $12,650. 

A nice 1849-0 quarter in AU50 sold for 
$7,820, while an 1870-CC in VG8 and choice for the 
grade hit $11,213. 

An 1852 original dollar with environmental 
damage and AU details did not sell, while an 1871- 
CC with VF/XF details but with surface damage hit 
$4,313. An 1873-CC with XF details but filed rims 
managed $8,050. 

The Rarities Night featured the fabulous 
Seated half dollar collection of club member Dick 
Osburn. This collection contained some the finest 
half dollars and many were purchased from the Pryor 
and Noblet Sales. 

The highlights contained the following: 
1840-0 reverse of 38 in MS62 for $8,050; 1842-0 
small date in MS63 did not sell; 1852-0 in MS63 
with nice toning hit $8,625, while an 1855-S jewel in 
MS67 soared to $115,000. An 1856-S in MS63 with 
light toning sold for $10,925, while an 1857-S in 
MS61 with streaky toning hammered for $5,750. An 
1866-S no motto in MS62 realized $12,650. An 
1870-CC in MS62 that was well struck with beauti- 
ful toning, and looked finer and tied with one other 
as the finest certified, hit a magnificent $172,500. 

An 1871-CC in MS62 with a proof-like obverse sold 
for $17,550, while an 1872-CC in the same grade 
sold for the same amount. An 1873 no arrows open 
3 half in MS60 hit $20,700, while an 1873-CC no 
arrows in MS64 sold for $25,875. An 1874-CC in 
MS64 with lovely rim toning realized $57,500, while 
an 1878-CC in MS65 with mottled toning still man- 
aged $48,875. An 1878-S in MS63 with gold and 
blue toning soared to $184,000. 

The following dimes were all very nice, but 
none sold: 1844, MS63, 1846, AU55, 1856-S, 

MS63, 1859-S, MS65, and the finest certified, 1871- 
CC, MS62, 1873-CC, AU55, and a choice coin. An 
1858-S in MS62 did sell at $16,100. 

An 1867-S quarter in MS 63 and one of the 
two finest, with some dark peripheral toning hit 
$20,700, while two 1870-CCs, the first with AU de- 

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Seated Ponderings & More 

By Paul Kluth, LSCC #1994 

Any subscriber can submit questions or comments related to any numismatic topic re- 
garding Liberty Seated Collecting. Send in your thoughts directly to the Editor at 
wb8cpy@arrl.net — Paul Kluth 


Question: 

1 . As a follow-up to the ANA Convention, please tell us about your experience in 
Chicago at the ANA. What was enjoyable and maybe not so enjoyable from a collecting 
perspective? 

2. For the Liberty Seated denomination(s) that you collect, what are your favorite 
die varieties and/or die states? 

For example, do you like to collect the top 25 die varieties for a denomination? 

Or do you prefer collecting?: 

a. Die Marriages 

b. Double Dies 

c. Repunched Dates or Mintmarks 

d. Overdates or different size Mintmarks 

e. Misplaced Dates 

f. Rotated Dies 

g. Other die varieties 

Maybe you prefer EDS (early die states), the most perfect obverse/reverse dies 
that likely exist, or LDS (late die states) where dies exhibit more imperfections including 
clashed die and terminal die break conditions? 


Wanted!!! 

Exhibitors for the September Philadelphia Show 

Please consider exhibiting your/part of your collection of Liberty Seated coins and/or 
related numismatic books or material. You need not have a complete collector nor condition 
census coins. Just having Liberty Seated coins will attract attention. Your efforts will enable 
you to show off what you have and increase collector interest in our series. 

Contact Dennis Fortier, the LSCC Northeast Regional Director, at ricajun@msn.com 
for additional information or if you are interested. 



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LSCC Annual Meeting (continued from page I ) 


Next, Bill Bugert, the editor of the E-Gobrecht, announced a new award for extraordinary merit in 
contributions to the LSCC electronic newsletter, the E-Gobrecht. Greg Johnson, the author of the monthly 
column “Quarter of the Month” won this award and was surprised when his name was announced. He ac- 
cepted the award and graciously thanked the audience. Congratulations Greg for a well-deserved award! 


2011 

E-Gobrecht 
Editor Award 

Greg Johnson 

for his monthly column 

"Quarter of the Month" 




Craig Eberhart and John Frost both provided updates to LSCC Regional activities. Complete details 
are in Gerry Fortin’s column on the next page. 

Bill Bugert then presented a draft listing of candidates for the Top Ten Liberty Seated half dollars. 
Voting will be conducted concurrent with an upcoming issue of the Gobrecht Journal. Bill presented a list- 
ing and asked for feedback on candidates for the listing. The slides are detailed below and everyone is wel- 
come to comment to Bill at wb8cpy@arrl.net. 



Criteria 


• Top Ten Liberty Seated Half Dollars 

• General guidelines - Design differences oniy 

• No mintmark or date size variations 

• No errors such as doubled dates, doubled dies, etc. 

• Draft listing on next page - ballots will be 
mailed to all club members 

• Voting results to be published in Gobrecht 
Journal 

• Comments/feedback to Bill Bugert 


0 ^ Candidate Listing 

'^^0 Top Ten Liberty Seated Half Dollars 

• 1839 No drapery 

• 1855-S 

• 1840 (0) Medium letters 

• 1866-S No motto 

reverse 

• 1870-CC 

• 1842 Small date, small 

• 1873-CC No arrows 

letters reverse 

• 1874-CC 

• 1847-0 Small date, small 
letters reverse 

• 1876-S Type 2 reverse 

• 1850 

• 1877 Type 1 reverse 

• 1851 

• 1878 Type 1 reverse 

• 1852 

• 18780C 

• 1853-0 No arrows and 

• 1878-S 

rays 

3 


Greg Johnson discussed an upcoming survey on the top twenty five quarters. More details will be 
announced in an upcoming Gobrecht Journal. Bill Bugert then presented an overview of early New Or- 
leans Half Dollars. President McCloskey discussed dwindling submissions of articles to the Gobrecht Jour- 
nal and asked for member contributions. He suggested stories of memorable purchases of Liberty Seated 
coins and asked for articles by September 10, 201 1 (see a copy of his letter on page 11). 

Brad Karoleff wrapped up the club meeting with a very entertaining benefit auction of donated 
items (see auction items on page 10.). If you’ve never participated in one of his auctions, you are missing a 
truly memorable event. Many thanks. Brad. After the auction, the meeting formally adjourned. 




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Regional News 

by Gerry Fortin, LSCC #1054 


Dear fellow LSCC members, 

I This edition of the LSCC re- 
gional news is written in the 
I aftermath of Irene and its 
heavy rains and Northeast 
flooding. In Southern Maine, we experienced 
tropical force winds and luckily suffered little 
damage other than a favorite maple tree having its 
leaves shredded. Diane is presently dealing with 
power and cable outage that I’m sure will last sev- 
eral dates given our remote location in Raymond. 

I hope that all LSCC members on the East Coast 
were fortunate and escape serious properly damage 
from winds and flooding. 

As mentioned in the August regional 
news column, the first half of September features 
three LSCC regional meetings each spaced one 
week apart and located in the east, central and west 
regions. Since the Ohio CONA show is occurring 
during the September E-Gobrecht release, let’s fo- 
cus on the Long Beach and Whitman Philadelphia 
regional meetings. West Regional Director, Craig 
Eberhart, sent along a brief summary describing 
the September 9 Long Beach regional meeting ac- 
tivities. Craig writes, “The LSCC west regional 
meeting will be held on Eriday September 9 at the 
Long Beach Coin, Stamp, and Collectible Expo. 
The meeting will be in Room 102C and start 
promptly at 9:00 am. Introductions will be first, 
followed by a short discussion of the Chicago 
ANA meeting, my presentation on "Seated Coins 
of New Orleans", and other issues for discussion. 

I hope to see a good turnout of members at the 
"Beach!” 


lectors Club Society. Northeast Regional Director 
Dennis Eortier is teaming with John Erost and 
sharing a complimentary club table on the bourse 
floor from Thursday through Saturday. Table 
number is 656 for LSCC members that wish to 
stop by and discuss Seated and Barber coinage. 
Dennis Eortier writes, “I will have some CC seated 
halves as well as both the first marriage and the re- 
marriage of the 1841-0 Baseball Die Crack and 
John Erost will have rarities of other seated series. 

I also have two newspapers from 1836 with an- 
nouncements of the new Gobrecht Dollar and 
Seated Half Dollar. In the same newspapers, we 
can also read Andy Jackson's state of the Union 
address and the progress of the Seminole war. At 
the September 16 joint LSCC and BCCS regional 
meeting, a presentation entitled Collecting Carson 
City Seated Halves on a Budget, will be featured 
along with one additional presentation. We will 
also kick the tires on a 40th Anniversary medal for 
the club that was approved at the ANA and hope 
for another strong turnout as in Manchester, NH! 

There are no regional meetings scheduled 
for October but in November, our Directors are 
scheduling regional meetings in Boston and Balti- 
more. The Boston meeting is in conjunction with 
the Bay State Show and is schedule for November 
12. Immediately following Bay State is the fall 
installment of the Whitman Coin and Collecting 
Expo and a regional meeting planned for Novem- 
ber 18. LSCC Treasurer and Secretary Len Augs- 
burger is coordinating preparations for Seated Eest, 
a public display of well noted Liberty Seated coin- 
age sets across all denominations. More on this 
matter in the October E-Gobrecht. 


On the heels of Long Beach, September 15- 
17 finds the LSCC at the Whitman Philadelphia 
show in another joint event with the Barber Col- 




The E-Gobrecht 


The Budget Collector: 

Seated Deals & Steals 
Under a Hundred Dollars 

Seventieth in a Series 

by Len Augsburger, LSCC #1 271 


ANA Report (LSCC version) 

There was no flying to the ANA Convention this 
year, for I live in the northern suburbs of Chicago 
and the convention center is only half an hour away 
by car. I compensated by scheduling way too many 
coin activities for the week, but somehow they all 
got done. Monday was exhibit setup day - 1 dis- 
played a easeful of tokens and medal related to 
Christian Gobrecht. I did not expect to win an ex- 
hibit prize, and as far as that goes things turned out 
as expected - the more important purpose was to at- 
tract any potential sellers of Gobrecht-related mate- 
rial! It took until Thursday, but around lunchtime 
someone came around with an inventory list of very 
delectable material. It wasn't for sale, but a good 
contact was made and perhaps someday we'll make a 
deal. 

Tuesday I worked as a table assistant for 
seated and bust dealer Rich Uhrich. Things went 
swimmingly during dealer setup time as a few of 
Rich's regular suppliers came by with lots of goodies 
for sale. The buying was going well, but the selling 
had problems, for Rich's security service was having 
difficulty getting his inventory onto the show floor. 
After a few heated phone calls the coins landed on 
the show floor mid-morning and we hastily un- 
packed everything into the display cases. I got to 
chat with a number of seated quarter (my specialty) 
enthusiasts and table activity was brisk throughout 
the day. At the end of the day Rich paid me (it was a 
lot of fun - 1 would do it for free, don't tell Rich!) 
and invited me to his staff and suppliers dinner later 
in the week. 


Thursday morning we held the annual meet- 
ing for the LSCC (I believe Bill Bugert is providing 
a full report elsewhere in this issue), the highlight 
being the election of Randy Wiley into the LSCC 
Hall of Fame. Randy, not to mention his compre- 
hensive knowledge of the seated half series, authored 
a landmark work on the 1861-0 half dollar - 1 think 
it is fair to say that this is the most popular series of 
articles ever written in the Gobrecht Journal, for 
which I continually get reprint requests. Gerry 
Fortin took the Ahwash award for best article in the 
Gobrecht Journal for the club year 2009-2010. Greg 
Johnson was awarded the first ever E-Gobrecht 
award recognizing his contributions to our online 
newsletter. The meeting concluded with a energetic 
auction hosted by Mr. Brad Karoleff, and I will not 
try to describe it - if you've seen Brad in action you 
know what I am talking about. If not, try to come to 
the annual meeting next year in Philadelphia! 

$1,905 was raised for the club treasury, and a big 
thanks goes to all the bidders and to those who do- 
nated auction lots. 

Thursday evening was the highlight on the 
convention for seated collectors as the Dick Osburn 
collection of MS Liberty Seated halves headlined 
Stack's-Bowers Rarities Night. The auction room 
was literally electric - very crowded (the great spread 
Stack's put on definitely helped) with hardly a seat 
available. Chris Karstedt of Stack's invited Dick to 
say a few words before the sale started. Dick was 
present with his two sons and wife, who admitted 
that she was more than a little bit nervous! Sales 
were good, and will be reported elsewhere in this 
issue. The big coins were the 1870-CC ($150K ham- 

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Quarter of the Month 

by Greg Johnson, LSCC #1460 


The 1840 With Drapery Large O 
quarter (which I will abbreviate 
as 1840 WD LgO) was called the 
“rarest collectible seated quarter” 
in The Comprehensive Encyclo- 
pedia of United States Liberty 
Seated Quarters. There were 16 confirmed exam- 
ples at the time of the book’s publication in 1991. 
Since then a number of examples have surfaced with 
current estimates at about 40 pieces in all grades and 
conditions. It is a well-known and highly regarded 
variety pairing the newly introduced with drapery 
obverse and a reworked reverse previously used to 
strike no drapery quarters at the New Orleans mint. 

It can accurately be referred to as an important tran- 
sitional coin. The 1840 WD LgO quarter was voted 
number 7 in the Liberty Seated Collectors Club sur- 
vey of the 10 greatest New Orleans seated coins 
(Gobrecht Journal Issue 101), finishing as the third 
highest rated quarter in the group behind the 1849-0 
(#3) and the 1842-0 Small Date (#6). It was in- 
cluded as coin #2 in the Top 25 Seated Quarter Va- 
rieties described in Gobrecht Journal #111. This 
month’s column will provide some additional photo- 
graphs of the variety, a photographic summary of the 
other 1840-0 seated quarter die pairings, and some 
speculation regarding the minting of these coins. 


©2004 HeritageCoinxom 

Figure 1. No Drapery Obverse 1 


There are five known die pairs for the 1840- 
O quarter. The two no drapery obverses and two no 
drapery reverses continued the die style used in 
Philadelphia during 1838 and 1839and were pre- 
sumably used early during 1840. Figure 1 shows no 
drapery obverse 1 as paired with no drapery reverse 
A, illustrated in Figure 2. Coins from this die pair 
are known as the “mintmark left” variety. No drap- 
ery reverse B, shown in Figure 3, features a dramati- 
cally different mintmark position from reverse A. 

The two no drapery varieties are thus quite easy to 
distinguish. The only known no drapery die pairs are 
1-A and 2-B; neither obverse die appears to have 
been paired with more than one reverse. 


©2004 HeritageCoinxom 

Figure 2. No Drapery Reverse A 
(Mintmark Left) 

A new with drapery obverse die apparently 
arrived part way through the year (most likely in 
June). The no drapery reverse B was reworked and 
paired with the new with drapery obverse. The rea- 
son for this is not obvious since according to mint 



(Continued on page 9) 





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1 ,994 photos (most oversized) 
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Detailed descriptions 
Photo diagnostics 
Rarity ratings and more 
Special edits by Randy Wiley 


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Many thanks! 


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Quarter of the Month (Continued from page 7) 


Figure 3. No Drapery Reverse B 

cords a new reverse die was shipped with the new 
obverse. Figure 4 shows a with-drapery obverse and 
Figure 5 the reworked no drapery “large O” reverse 
that was paired with the with drapery obverse. Note 
the second set of hand cut denticles and the pro- 
nounced weakness on the right feather and left leg of 


@2005 Heritage Galleries 

Figure 5. With Drapery Large O Reverse (A) 


Figure 6 . With Drapery Small O Reverse (C) 


Figure 4. With Drapery Obverse 2 

ea- 
gle. All known examples of the 1840 WD 
LgO have this weakness on the reverse and when 


certified are frequently undergraded because of it. 

The first with drapery obverse that was 
paired with the large O reverse was also paired with 
a small O reverse (that die - Briggs reverse B - is not 
illustrated here). The final New Orleans mint die 
pair of 1840 is Briggs 2-C illustrated in Figures 4 
and 6. Interestingly, reverse C was re-used in 1841 
(or more likely in December 1840) to strike the first 

(Continued on page 13) 



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The E-Gobrecht 


Results of the LSCC Benefit Auction 


At the Chicago World’s Fair of Money LSCC annual meeting on August 18, 201 1, the officers of the LSCC 
conducted an auction of miscellaneous interesting numismatic items to benefit the club’s Treasury. The re- 
sults were record breaking ($1,905) and we wish to thank the item donors and the auction participants; the 
funds will be used in efforts to promote the club and its activities. Here are the prices realized for the auction 


THE 

GOBRECHT 

KWRNAL 



Pot CoHkTM* 
et rtit 

UBBftTT SEJiTDB C(NH SCREEN 


Original edition of Gobrecht Jour- 
nal #1 . Donated by Len Augs- 
burger, $150. 



Unique 1858 Liberty Seated half 
dollar, attractively counterstamped 
“2011 LSCC”, stamped and do- 
nated by Bill Bugert, $75. 


STA.MUf.tTJlt'J W ‘Ifis fflrng 



Original document entitled 
“Report of the Examination of the 
Branch Mints at San Francisco and 
Carson City, November 19, 1872.” 
Donated by Rich Uhrich, $130. 



1873 Trade Dollar, as featured in 
the E-Gobrecht Volume 7, Issue 
#1. Donated by Len Augsburger, 
$ 100 . 



Hardcover display books (two 
book set in hardcover slip case) of 
Eugene Gardener’s Liberty Seated 
Quarter Collection. These books 
detail every LS quarter in Gene’s 
collection with outstanding over- 
sized photographs and narratives. 
Donated by Gene Gardner, $700. 



1872 Liberty Seated dollar, NGC 
certified VF details, as feature in 
E-Gobrecht Volume 7, Issue #3. 
Donated by Len Augsburger, 
$ 100 . 



Deluxe leather bound copy num- 
ber #10 of 10 of “A Register of 
Liberty Seated Half Dollar Varie- 
ties, Volume III, New Orleans 
Branch Mint, 1840-0 to 1853-0 
NA.” Donated by Bill Bugert, 
$650. 



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Handout at the LSCC Annual meeting 


LIBERTY SEATED 

COLLECTORS CLUB 


Publishers of the GOBRECHT JOURNAL 

August 18, 2011 

The Liberty Seated Collectors Club introduced the Gobrecht Journal in the fall of 
1974 and has published three issues of the journal each year for the past 37 years. The 
original objective of the club was to provide a publication where collectors of the Liberty 
Seated series could report their observations on Seated coinage for the benefit of other 
collectors of 19^^ century silver coins. 

Over the years the quality of the articles presented in the journal has improved 
dramatically as numismatic scholars have reported their observations and opinions from 
sophisticated research studies on Seated coinage. Sadly, contributions by the majority of 
club members reporting their experiences at shows or their good fortxme at finding some 
unusual or rare Seated coin have decreased dramatically over the years. 1 would like to 
see the journal return to its original objective and once again include human interest 
stories presented by club members on their rewarding experiences with Seated coinage. 

I propose the following exercise for club members attending this annual meeting of 
LSCC. I would like to ask all those in attendance to prepare for publication in the 
Gobrecht Journal a short story describing a memorable purchase of a Seated coin from 
your collecting experiences. This contribution can vary from a single paragraph to 
possibly two pages in length. It could be something like the satisfaction you experienced 
at purchasing the last coin to reach a collecting objective, the purchase of a rare date coin 
or a rare variety that you had searched for over many years, the purchase of an error coin 
that you didn’t even know existed or any other experience to show the joys that one can 
experience at collecting these beautiful silver coins from the 19* century. 

You may complete a paragraph on the back of this page and return it to me after the 
meeting or send it to me by email at John.McCloskey@notes.udayton.edu. I will also 
accept contributions at my postal address imtil September 10, 201 1 : 




John McCloskey 
President LSCC 
5718 King Arthur Dr. 
Kettering, Ohio 45429 







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The E-Gobrecht 

Miscellaneous ANA photos 



Dick Osburn saying a few words before the auction of his half dollars (above right) and Chris Karstedt of 
Stack’ s-Bowers calling a lot in his sale (upper left) 



LSCC Vice President Bill Bugert at the club table (left) and LSCC President John McCloskey discussing 
Gobrecht Journal Collective Volume #6 at the annual meeting (right) 





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Budget Collector (Continued from page 6) 

mer) and 1878-S ($160K hammer). If you've been 
doing this awhile, you know that an auction of seated 
material like this only happens every few years - so 
you have to take your chances when you get them. 
Best wishes to Dick and Ruth! Note, Dick retains 
his large set of seated half dollar varieties, which will 
no doubt keep him out of trouble for a few more 
years. 

Saturday was the next big day on the seated 
calendar - Stack's had a nice run of seated quarters in 
their Saturday sale. The timing on Saturday had a 
few of the consignors concerned - would the prices 
hold up with everyone leaving town? By and large 
they did. I managed to score the 1847-0 quarter in 
PCGS AU58, an upgrade to the current coin I have. 

I pulled the duplicate coin out of the bank with the 
intention of selling it, but it is a nice EF coin I got 
long ago from Brian Greer and is hard to let go of! 

I'll enjoy studying the coin a bit more before the next 
show. It is a Briggs 1- A per the mintmark place- 


ment, but doesn't seem to quite match the other die 
characteristics for a 1-A, so I'll call it an "early die 
state" until I look at a few more of them. The other 
thing I like about this particular example is that it is 
not as flatly struck as many 1847-Os come. 

Saturday afternoon I packed up the Gobrecht 
exhibit and headed home. On the way out I swung 
by the LSCC table to pickup any remaining litera- 
ture. The LSCC hosted a club table at the ANA this 
year, which was well received. We handed out lit- 
erature to prospective members and provided a loca- 
tion for LSCC members to meet up and visit. The 
ANA provided club table space at an attractive price, 
and we'll try this again next year in Philadelphia - 
hope to see everyone there! 


Quarter of the Month (Continuedfmmpage9) 

1841-0 quarters and is dubbed reverse A for 1841. 

Note that the emission sequence proposed 
here is speculation based on research and insights 
published by Randy Wiley in issue #99 of the Go- 
brecht Journal. There is not hard evidence to prove 
that the coins were, in fact, produced in such a se- 
quence, but the sequence is both plausible and con- 
sistent with what is known. That sequence is : 1) No 
Drapery Mintmark Left (Briggs 1-A); 2) No Drapery 
Mintmark Centered (Briggs 2-B); 3) With Drapery 
Large O (Briggs 1-A) - reverse die reworked No 
Drapery reverse B; 4) With Drapery Small O (Briggs 
1-B)- same obverse die as the 1840 WD LgO; and 
5) With Drapery Small O (Briggs 2-C). 

The year 1 840 is a most interesting one for 
collectors of seated coinage, with many transitional 
coins, mules, experiments, mistakes and other varie- 


ties to study. Anyone with a particular interest in 
this year is strongly encouraged to read “The New 
Orleans Branch Mint in 1840” by Randall Wiley in 
Issue #99 of the Gobrecht Journal. 

References used in this article 

• The Comprehensive Encyclopedia of United 
States Liberty Seated Quarters, Larry Briggs, 
Lima OH 1991. 

• The New Orleans Branch Mint in 1840, Randall 
Wiley, Gobrecht Journal Issue #99, pages 3-14. 

• The Ten Greatest New Orleans Seated Coins, 
Gobrecht Journal Issue #101, 53-57. 

• The Liberty Seated Quarter Top 25 Variety Set, 
Greg Johnson, Gobrecht Journal Issue #111, 

pages 3-27. 

• Photos courtesy of Heritage Archives. 








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Upcoming LSCC Events 


Central Ohio Numismatic Association, Dublin, OH, September 3, 10 A.M., Room 105. 

Pleaser contact Steve Petty for more information at stephenpettv @ sbc global.net. 

Long Beach Coin, Stamps, and Collectibles Expo, Long Beach, CA, regional meeting, Septem- 
ber 9, 9 A.M., Room 102C. Please contact Craig Eberhart for more information at craig@eberhart.us . 

Whitman Coin and Collectibles Expo, Philadelphia, PA, regional meeting, September 16, 9 
A.M., Room 208. Please contact Dennis Fortier for more information at ricajun@msn.com. 

Club table is 656. 


Auction News (Continued from page 2) 

tails, but cleaned and toned back, hit $24,238, while 
an XF detail with the same description did not sell. 
An 1872-S in MS63 ex-Eliasberg sold for $20,700. 

An 1839 no drapery half dollar in MS65, but 
very weak on the left reverse, did not sell. Two 
coins from my collection, an 1870-CC half in AU50 
and an 1873-CC no arrows in MS63 did not sell. An 


1878-S half that was an original F15 soared to 
$51,750. 

An 1871-CC dollar in MS63 with golden ton- 
ing rang the bell for $126,000, while an 1873-CC in 
VF20 with only L-TY showing realized $18,400. 

An 1878-CC trade dollar in MS61 that was 
well struck but had a number of wispy abrasions still 
managed $18,400. 


Reflections on the sale of Dick’s Halves 

by Bill Bugert, LSCC #455 


As many of you know. Stack’s- Bowers auctioned the 
fabulous Mint State Liberty Seated half dollar eollee- 
tion of Diek Osburn in conjunetion with Chicago 
ANA World’s Fair of Money Rarities Night sale on 
August 18, 201 1. Dick auctioned his complete 
date/mint Mint State colleetion and ineluded some 
major varieties and patterns. 

I was very fortunate and honored to sit next 
to Diek during the auetion while he was flanked by 
his wife, Ruth, and his two attending sons (see photo 
on page 12). At approximately 5 P.M., Dick opened 
the auetion when Chris Karstedt of Staek’s-Bowers, 
who did an excellent job of calling the auction, asked 
Dick to say a few words. The auction of 152 lots 
then commenced and quickly ended less than two 
hours later. The room was filled to capaeity with 
participants sitting everywhere including all avail- 
able floor space. In a casual look around the room, I 


noticed many LSCC members including, but not lim- 
ited to. Rich Uhrich (who sat to my left), Len Augs- 
burger, Brian Greer, Craig Eberhart, Greg Johnson, 
Dave Thomas, Q. David Bowers, Carl Feldman, 
Dennis Hengeveld, Karl Moulton, and Steve Tomp- 
kins. My good friend and colleague, Randy Wiley, 
was unable to attend and I am sorry he missed this — 
he would have enjoyed it immensely. 

As the lots were ealled, I reeorded the open- 
ing bid, winning bid and the bidder number. I knew 
many bidders but many lots were awarded to phone 
and internet bidders so their identity was unknown 
on the floor. Of note was the winner of the 1878-S 
PCGS MS 63 half dollar (hammered at $160,000) 
who also won the 1865-S NGC MS64 and the 1872- 
S PCGS MS64. 

This was a truly memorable event that will go 
down in history as a major Liberty Seated event. 



201 I Volume 7, Issue 9 (September 2011) 


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